Turn Key Pricing

Sue | March 11th, 2010 - 7:12 am

Turnkey Pricing on Handcrafted and Milled Log Homes

A log home in Montana is a dream for many. This is a unique place in that there are people from all over the United States who come here. Many properties are owned by people who plan to retire and move here. Turnkey pricing for log homes in Montana can be broken into two different categories: milled log homes and handcrafted log homes. Based on the turnkey contracts we have seen recently in Montana, Wyoming and Minnesota we are seeing the turnkey for an 8 inch milled log home starting out at about $165 per square foot on a full unfinished basement. Lager diameters of 9, 10, and 12 are more per square foot.  For a handcrafted log home the price per square foot for a full turnkey is approximately $205-240 per square foot.

Pricey Areas for Log Homes

In areas such as Big Sky Montana, Jackson Hole Wyoming, and other high-end towns, turnkey price per square foot can start at $350 and go up. When we build in  Big Sky Montana we work within a lower price range than this. There are some restrictions which were put in place by certain subdivisions, required permitting, and approval by various entities that does increase the cost and cause more work for the builder but still for most homes we are able to build for considerably less than the $350 per square foot starting out.

Tailoring Turnkey Contracts on Log Homes for Accurate Building Costs

There are ways to help insure a price per square foot is accurate for your project and also works within your budget. With every building contract there should be allowances drawn into it. The more allowances the better. Before the contract is signed, the homeowners should go shopping and see how much the various items cost that they would like to include in the home. Then each allowance can be adjusted, if need be, to an accurate amount. If you will only be happy with the $15,000 imported counter top, then it needs to be reflected in the allowance for that item. But conversely, if you are satisfied with a laminate counter top, then the allowance may only need to be $2,000-3,000 for that item.

By the homeowner taking time to make an depth look at the cost of each item will reveal if each allowance accurately reflects how much the homeowner desires to spend in each allowance category. Then the builder can take this information and further tailor it to the homeowner’s desires. At the end of the building process, if the specific allowance was not exhausted, then a credit is given to the homeowner. If a budget was exceeded, then that is also adjusted for. In one instance a customer wanted a $15,000 counter top when the allowance in the original contract was for a $4,000 Corian top. This homeowner consistently made choices like this throughout the home project. Then in the end he was upset with the builders because the home cost nearly $90 more per square foot than the original bid. The bottom line is the homeowner dictates the final price per square foot more than they realize. High-end choices will substantially chance the price per square foot.

Remote Locations and Log Homes

Now let us consider remote locations in light of the above building costs per square foot.

Electric, Septic, Basements ~ Oh My!

Building in remote locations can dramatically change the price per square foot. Not because the contractor is getting greedy, but simply because there are more variables. If building on the side of a mountain, a driveway cost alone may triple. If no electricity is within a close proximity, solar or alternative energy may be required for the home. In one instance, in Gallatin County there is a subdivision that has both on the grid and off the grid lots. For one of the off the grid lots, the electric company quoted the homeowner in the neighborhood of $250,000 to bring electric to his property. Things like this need to be thought of before the lot is purchased.

For a mountain top project, septic can also prove a difficulty. If there is no where for a perk test to pass, then some have resorted to burying tanks and then having them pumped. This can yield a two-fold problem. The first: can a septic truck get to the home. And the second: will a bank even loan on a property that does not have a conventional septic system. These are very important considerations.

Another remote property hurdle is the basement. Both digging costs and pouring of the cement will change a price. If the ground is on a bench or on a mountain, you may encounter boulders and sheer rock. Dynamite blasting is not that unusual here. For one home we built in Madison County, the cost of excavation went from $4,000 a final expense of $12,000. When digging, boulders the size of a pickup truck were revealed. A dynamite blaster from a local mine had to be brought to the job site. Also the basement had to be moved some to compensate for one boulder in particular. Cement delivery is another substantial cost that can vary. If the cement truck has to be assisted up the grade by a large piece of machinery and also if a pump truck is required, a normal cost projection on a basement will escalate.

log homes with excavation

Log Home Delivery

Delivery of logs and material can also be an increased expense. One log home in Ponderay, Idaho had to be priced with a barge carrying the logs across the lake. Another mountain top property entailed three trips with a Hela-lift helicopter to haul the logs to the final destination. With handcrafted logs of lengths up to 50 feet, the only way to get them to the job site may be a helicopter lift. One small handcrafted log home of about 900 square feet was delivered to remote Alaska. The handcrafted log home package costs $15,000 to ship to Anchorage. Then a helicopter lift had to make three trips with the logs. Each trip cost $25,000. These are costs that the builder has no control over. The homeowner needs to consider things like delivery costs before they purchase the property.
If you are an owner of a remote property, do not despair. There are ways to still make your dream come true. Locating a builder who is accustomed to handling out of the way projects is vital. Recently I met with an owner of a remote property. The only access to his land entailed 15 miles of rough gravel roads back into the mountains. After looking at the job site and doing an on site evaluation, there was only one builder that I could think of that could even handle the job.

Don’t be fooled. When you are dealing with steep grades, drop offs, narrow roads, and rough terrain accidents can happen and people get hurt. If this is the scenario leading to your home be very careful to select a builder based on their experience, not on them just having the least expensive price. On this cabin pictured here we originally bid the delivery of the logs up to the mountains in Pony, MT. The owner chose someone else. The other builder loaded too many logs onto the log truck. The log truck ROLL OVER! Then the owner came back to us and hired us to bring in one of our cranes, right the truck, and manage to get all the logs and materials up to the job site. Needless to say, it would have been less expensive if the owners would have just had us do it on the first place.

pony montana log cabin

Interviewing Log Home Builders

When you sit down with a builder, have an open ear to what he has to say. It is a good idea to talk to a qualified builder before you even purchase the property. Immediately he would be able to tell you things that the realtor has no hands-on knowledge of. Listen carefully to the costs and the projections that the builder states. If he has already built homes in remote locations, he has first hand knowledge of what things may end up costing. Building is stressful enough, but do yourself a favor and get the research done before hand. Facing a project with realistic costs and a contract customized to your location and floor plan will ensure that your home sees completion. There in one home near Billings Montana that the owners were never able to finish. It looks like half a home. So do not let that happen to you.

Log Home Building Suggestions

Here are some suggestions to make your project work even if you are dealing with remote property access or other issues such as elevated costs for bringing electric to the lot.

1) When you are laying out your home, do design it the way you want it, but also keep in mind how you might economize. If digging becomes a problem, a crawl space might be a wise choice instead of a full basement. Also consider reducing the overall size of the home or adding a second floor so that the over all outside dimensions of the home are reduced.

2) Consider if there is another location on the property that is easier to build on that you would be satisfied with. If the home is on the top of the mountain, you might not be able to get to it in the winter anyway.

3) If electric is not readily available look into alternative energy such as solar panels for the home. It may cost much less that paying a huge sum to the electric company to extend the power lines to reach your property.

4) Get on a builder’s schedule at least 6 months in advance. Then he can start at the optimum time for your property location. If you can build in the middle of summer when it is drier costs may be less than fighting through mud in the spring or fall or ice in the winter.

When choosing your move in date, also be sure it is realistic in conjunction with your start date. If you want to move in by early summer, then the home needs to be started before the ground freezes solid. In some areas in Montana that receive a lot of snow, the snow insulates the ground so digging can still be done into the beginning of December. At a job site near George Town Lake between Helena and Missoula Montana, a particular basement was dug in mid December. Even though the elevation was round 7,000 feet, the ground had a thick blanket of snow. The frost line had not deeply penetrated because of the snow. So with only an extra day of clearing away snow, the basement was dug and the project progressed throughout the winter. The happy owners moved in by spring.

Financing Log Homes

Another important point, that I do not want to forsake mentioning, deals with financing. Be very careful to have all financing in place and completed before any digging is done. Some try to move forward as far as they can with cash before they involve the bank. Lenders do not like this and very seldom (if ever) lend on a project that is already in progress. So be sure to do the financing from the start if a lender will be needed.

Dream, plan, research, and above all else choose a builder who has knowledge that relates to your specific project. Typically log home builders in Montana find the happiest customers to be the ones who do their research. Sit down personally with your log home supplier and builder. Also ask them to visit the job site personally with you.  So if your dream is a log home, get started today. It is such an exciting time when you see your hard work pay off and move into your new log home.

Sue Lemmon
Cowboy Log Homes

Any projected costs, cost estimates, material costs, and estimated construction/ building costs, are only the opinion of Cowboy Log Homes and are drawn from our experience. Every home is custom tailored to meet our individual client's wants and desires. The construction of a log or timber home is based on two primary costs: material provided by the log home company and construction costs contracted with Cowboy Log Homes as the builder or another builder of the customer's choice. Final costs are obtained and contracted with each respectively. Cowboy Log Homes is simply the "glue" that helps bring these two together to provide a final culmination of a customer's project. * Please note photos and elevations may differ some from accompanying floor plans.
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